Hayley Turner Horse Racing Form | Leicester 15:23 08th October 2024

always towards rear

took keen hold, held up in rear, minor headway over 2f out, soon pushed along, kept on inside final furlong, no danger

held up in rear, headway over 2f out, soon ridden, kept on inside final furlong, no danger

front rank, shaken up and headway 2f out, ridden to lead over 1f out, edged right inside final furlong, kept on well

always towards rear

prominent, pushed along over 3f out, soon weakened and eased

in touch, ridden over 1f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong, not pace to challenge

ran in snatches, slowly away, held up in rear, pushed along over 2f out, minor headway inside final furlong

mid-division on inside, pushed along 4f out, weakened 3f out

chased leaders, switched right and effort over 1f out, went 3rd inside final furlong, stayed on

dwelt and lost many lengths start, always behind

mid-division, ridden along over 2f out, weakened over 1f out

tracked leaders, pushed along 3f out, hung left and no impression 2f out, weakened quickly over 1f out

tracked leaders, driven 2f out, chased leader entering final furlong, stayed on strongly to lead inside final furlong, kept on

wore red hood to post, mid-division on outer, closer 6f out, ridden 3f out, gradually dropped away 2f out

tracked leader, pushed along 2f out, every chance 1f out, weakened quickly inside last

in rear, struggling 2f out, never a factor

towards rear, pushed along 3f out, weakened quickly, eased 1f out

held up in touch, ridden and every chance 2f out, no extra inside final furlong

chased leaders, switched left inside final 2f, went 2nd soon after, ridden and kept on same pace inside final furlong, no chance with winner

always in rear, pushed along and struggling 4f out, tailed off

in touch in mid-division, took keen hold, ridden over 2f out, soon beaten

held up rear of mid-division, badly hampered and unseated rider 4f out

held up towards rear, took keen hold, not much room and switched right over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, went 4th close home

tracked leaders, ridden and unable to quicken over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong

disputed lead in far side group, lost place over 1f out

held up in touch, ridden over 3f out, kept on same pace final furlong

slowly into stride, off the pace towards rear, pushed along over 2f out, ridden over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, never going pace to get competitive

prominent towards far side of group, ridden and weakened final 2f

led, close up when headed after 2f, ridden along 2f out, kept on until no extra inside final furlong

close up, shaken up going okay over 2f out, soon ridden, ran on same pace, made no impression

led after 1f, shaken up 2f out, ridden along over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, no extra towards finish

midfield, ridden over 4f out, weakened over 2f out

prominent, pushed along 2f out, weakened over 1f out

prominent, ridden over 2f out, kept on same pace over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, took 2nd near finish, no match for ready winner

held up in midfield, pushed along 2f out, soon faded

led middle group, pushed along over 2f out where chased leader, kept on same pace entering final furlong, lost 2nd near finish

tracked leaders, pushed along over 2f out, challenged over 1f out, edged left, no extra towards finish

wore red hood to post, raced keenly, soon prominent on outer, led narrowly well over 2f out, pushed along well over 1f out, ridden and headed under 1f out, ran on same pace

held up last, outpaced from 2f out, rallied to make modest headway final furlong, never dangerous

chased leaders on outer, ridden over 1f out, stayed on, not pace to challenge

steadied and went left start, pulled hard and headway out wide chasing leaders 4f out, led 3f out, got to near side rail halfway, ridden and headed inside final furlong, weakened rapidly soon after

raced in last pair on inside, ran green and pushed along turning in, ridden and no response 2f out, never a factor

close 3rd, ridden hung right and unbalanced 2f out, soon weakened

held up towards rear, raced keenly, switched right over 2f out, soon ridden, ran on well over 1f out, not reach leaders

made all, ridden clear over 1f out, ran on strongly, comfortably

raced keenly tracked leader until 4f out, chased leaders, pushed along over 2f out, weakened turning in

held up behind leaders, pushed along over 4f out, never on terms

took keen hold, soon led, headed over 4f out, went towards far side over 2f out, stayed on same pace final furlong

took keen hold, made all, went steady until upped gallop from over 5f out, pushed along when switched to far side over 2f out, driven over 1f out, held on gamely,

missed break, towards rear, headway 2f over out, hung when when ridden over 1f out, went second inside final furlong, no match for winner

chased leaders, ridden 2f out, faded 1f out

took keen hold, midfield, pushed along over 3f out, bumped 2f out, weakened over 1f out

keen in touch, ridden and headway over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong

always in rear

slowly away, in rear, pushed along over 2f out, kept on, never nearer

slowly into stride, never going well and ran green, always in rear

chased leaders, led 1f out, headed inside final furlong, held towards finish

raced keenly, soon steadied mid-division, headway out wide over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, never going pace to reach leaders

chased leaders, ridden inside final 2f, kept on same pace inside final furlong, edged left and weakened towards finish

off the pace in 4th, pushed along halfway, lost a place 2f out, soon weakened

tracked leader in centre, travelling well 3f out, ridden and lost 2nd in group over 1f out, weakened final furlong

slowly into stride, ran green in rear, never involved

chased leaders, ridden to challenge over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

held up towards rear, ridden over 2f out, headway and edged left over 1f out, no extra inside final 75 yards

soon led, headed over 2f out, every chance inside final furlong, held towards finish

chased leaders, ridden over 3f out, outpaced over 2f out, no impression after

held up behind, struggling 3f out, never a factor

slowly away, niggled along early, held up behind, keen throughout, struggling 3f out, never involved

chased leader until over 1f out, stayed on same pace final furlong

prominent, ridden and weakened final furlong

in touch in mid-division, outpaced over 2f out, ran on inside final furlong, unable to challenge

tracked leaders, not much room before going 2nd 1f out, soon switched left, carried left inside final furlong, stayed on, led last strides

held up towards rear, ridden over 2f out, headway over 1f out, went 4th inside final furlong, unable to trouble leaders

mid-division, headway and switched left over 2f out, never on terms, weakened inside final furlong

led, ridden and headed over 1f out, stayed on gamely and kept pressing leader inside final furlong, led again close home

held up in rear, pushed along over 2f out, never involved

towards rear, ridden over 1f out, not trouble leaders

dwelt, towards rear on far rail early, pushed along when waiting for room inside 3f out, ran on strongly far side from 2f out, led inside final 110 yards, kept on well and always doing enough towards finish

keen towards rear, pushed along 2f out, soon weakened

towards rear, effort and headway over 2f out, pushed along and pressed leaders over 1f out, led over 110 yards out, ridden out and ran on

rear mid-division, pushed along well over 2f out, no progress

towards rear, pushed along 3f out, never involved

tracked leader on inside, pushed along over 3f out, weakened 2f out

tracked leader, pressed leader still going well 2f out, soon driven, sustained duel inside final furlong, no extra towards finish

towards rear, ridden halfway, never on terms

prominent centre group, pushed along 2f out, faded gradually 1f out

front mid-division, pushed along over 2f out, no impression

in rear, pushed along 2f out, no real progress

mid-division, pushed along well over 2f out, not clear run briefly over 1f out, switched right and one pace inside last

dwelt, mid-division far side, pushed along over 2f out, weakened over 1f out

towards rear, ridden 2f out, ran on well over 110 yards out, never nearer

slowly into stride, mid-division, ridden well over 1f out, no progress

rear mid-division, ridden 2f out, never in contention

mid-division, pushed along 2f out, kept on into 3rd closing stages, never threatened

towards rear, pushed along 2f out, soon lost touch

held up off the pace in 6th, headway out wide chasing leaders over 1f out, stayed on inside final furling, went 2nd final 110 yards, led towards finish

led briefly, tracked leader for 2f, tracked leaders on inside, pushed along over 3f out, weakened inside final 3f

slowly away, behind, wide and headway inside final furlong, ran on to lead final strides

close up, pushed along over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

prominent on far side, ridden 1f out, soon struggling, weakened quickly final furlong

very awkwardly away, outpaced and always in rear

raced keenly tracking leaders, pushed along when carried left and badly hampered rival over 1f out, weakened soon after

rider removed late, slowly away, close up in rear, ridden and headway to chase winner approaching final furlong, kept on one pace

mid-division, pulled hard early, pushed along and weakened 3f out

mid-division on inside, pushed along and weakened rapidly 4f out, tailed off

held up far side, pushed along and made no impression over 2f out

prominent near side, pushed along 2f out, weakened final furlong

tracked leaders, lost place 6f out, ridden and headway 2f out, stayed on inside final furlong

in rear, pushed along from halfway, never on terms

in touch towards rear, ridden 3f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong

in touch, pushed along and weakened 2f out

chased leaders, nudged along over 2f out, ridden and headway over 1f out, soon led, went clear inside final furlong, won going away

towards rear near side, never a factor

keen in rear, ridden and headway approaching final furlong, never nearer

in touch in centre, ridden and weakened over 1f out

held up in rear, outpaced over 2f out, well beaten over 1f out

raced centre towards stands side, chased winner, ridden over 1f out, held inside final furlong, kept on

held up in rear, effort on outside over 2f out, no extra inside final furlong

slowly into stride, held up towards rear, switched right over 2f out, headway over 1f out, went 2nd towards finish, stayed on, no impression on winner

chased leaders on outside, steadied over 6f out, well behind over 2f out

took keen hold early, towards rear, asked for effort over 2f out, good headway over 1f out, stayed on strongly inside final furlong, nearest finish

soon steadied mid-division, headway towards inside when not clear run and switched left over 1f out, went between horses inside final furlong and kept on, just missed 2nd

held up in rear, headway on inside over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, never going pace to get involved

keen tracked leaders, ridden and every chance 2f out, kept on one pace inside final furlong

led 1f, tracked leader until pushed along over 2f out, went 2nd again 2f out until ridden over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

held up in rear, headway out wide over 2f out, ridden and no extra inside final furlong

raced keenly tracking leaders, ridden and weakened inside final 2f, hung right after

off the pace towards rear, pushed along 4f out, ridden out wide 3f out, plugged on in moderate 5th, never any chance

missed break, took keen hold, held up in rear, pushed along 5f out, outpaced and ridden over 3f out, hung right 2f out, made no impression

led, ridden and pressed inside final furlong, headed and no extra inside final 110 yards

chased leaders far side of group, pushed along 3f out, ridden and weakened inside final 2f

in rear, pushed along 4f out, ridden 3f out, never a factor

led, ridden and hung left approaching final furlong, headed inside final furlong

steadied start, in touch, pushed along 2f out, stayed on inside final furlong

held up towards rear, some headway over 2f out, no impression on leaders

prominent, going well when went second 3f out, ridden 2f out, soon lost position, weakened quickly final furlong

towards rear, pushed along over 1f out, never a factor

mid-division far side group, pushed along and headway over 2f out, every chance 1f out, ran on same pace

raced far side initially, held up and off the pace, switched left to join centre group over 4f out, never involved

dwelt in rear near side, pushed along 2f out, stayed on inside final furlong, nearest finish

in touch far side, ridden and weakened over 1f out

raced stands side, held up towards rear, headway from 2f out, chased winner over 1f out, no impression, stayed on

switched right start, midfield, pushed along and weakened over 1f out

slowly away, towards rear, ridden and headway approaching final 2f, stayed on inside final furlong, nearest finish

held up in touch, nudged along over 4f out, went third over 3f out, ridden 3f out, edged left 2f out, plugged on one pace final furlong

last to break, soon switched left, held up in rear, headway over 3f out, driven over 2f out, soon weakened

tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, went 2nd over 1f out, stayed on well against stands rail inside final furlong to lead towards finish, edged left close home

tracked leaders, pushed along and lost place over 2f out

in rear, pushed along when not much room over 4f out, hung left over 1f out, some late headway, no impression

steadied start, behind, headway when not clear run over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, went 3rd close home

mid-division on inside, took keen hold, headway over 2f out, led over 1f out, clear inside final furlong, eased towards finish

close up, ridden and weakened entering final furlong

tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, weakened inside final furlong

steadied start, held up in rear, ridden over 3f out, closed over 2f out, not much room and switched right over 1f out, one pace and no impression final furlong

always in rear

mid-division on inside, pushed along and could not go pace of leader 2f out, stayed on well in 2nd final furlong

in rear, pushed along off pace 3f out, plugged on final furlong

slowly away, mid-division, pushed along and outpaced 2f out, kept on well inside final furlong

held up behind, pushed along and made no impression 3f out

rearing in stalls, chased leader who went clear over 1f out, soon ridden and no impression, lost 2nd inside final 110 yards, weakened towards finish

steadied start, raced keenly in 5th on inside, headway when not clear run briefly over 1f out, went 2nd inside final furlong, stayed on same pace and held towards finish

slowly away, held up in mid-division, ridden and effort over 2f out, no extra inside final furlong

led, ridden and headed 2f out, weakened inside final furlong

held up in mid-division, ridden over 2f out, no impression, well beaten over 1f out

held up in rear, ridden over 2f out, headway when drifted left over 1f out, went 2nd entering final furlong, kept on, no impression on winner

slowly away, rear mid-division, pushed along and no response over 2f out

steadied start, held up towards rear, not clear run from over 2f out until switched right over 1f out, ran on well inside final furlong, went 3rd close home, eyecatcher

raced wide towards rear, pushed along before halfway, some headway hanging left over 2f out, soon weakened and behind

led until over 2f out, weakened over 1f out

slowly away, behind, ridden over 4f out, some headway on outside over 2f out, no impression, well held by leaders over 1f out

chased leader, took keen hold, struggling 3f out, well beaten 4th over 2f out

held up towards rear, pushed along over 4f out, well beaten final 2f

soon led, ridden and headed over 2f out, weakened over 1f out

held up rear of mid-division, headway from 2f out, led 1f out, hard pressed final furlong, held on

slowly into stride, soon in touch in mid-division, outpaced over 2f out, stayed on inside final 100 yards

held up towards rear, headway when not much room over 2f out, kept on inside final furlong, never dangerous

prominent near side, ridden to lead over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, stayed on

towards rear, pushed along and headway 2f out, ridden and kept on one pace inside final furlong

outpaced, wide and headway 2f out, pushed along and kept on same pace inside final furlong

chased leaders, not much room over 2f out, kept on, no extra towards finish

mid-division, lost ground quickly over 3f out, soon in rear and struggling, lost touch over 1f out

outpaced in rear, moderate late headway out wide, never involved

raced keenly tracking leaders, pushed along over 3f out, ridden hung left and went 2nd inside final furlong, no chance with winner, lost 2nd towards finish

tracked leaders near side rail, pushed along 3f out, outpaced and struggling over 2f out, hung right final 2f

slowly away, held up well in rear, headway between horses over 2f out, went 2nd inside final 2f, ridden and lost 2nd entering final furlong, weakened inside final furlong

tracked leaders near side rail, pushed along after halfway, weakened over 2f out

sweating, raced on rail, led 2f, tracked leader until shuffled back and lost place slightly 7f out, angled out and headway tracking leaders over 2f out, edged right and stayed on same pace in 3rd final furlong

chased leaders early, lost place and in last trio, 4f out, behind and struggling halfway, never a factor, tailed off

prominent, ridden over 3f out, soon lost position, dropped to rear over 1f out

held up in rear, ridden over 3f out, soon outpaced and tailed off

prominent far side, outpaced after halfway, weakened quickly and soon dropped towards rear 2f out, tailed off from 1f out

took keen hold, midfield, ridden over 3f out, no impression 2f out, kept on same pace entering final furlong

in touch, headway 4f out, pushed along 2f out, ridden to chase winner entering final furlong, stayed on close home

led early, headed after 1f, tracked leader, pushed along under 2f out, kept on inside final furlong

held up last but in touch, switched towards centre from 4f out, steady headway when pushed along from 3f out, ridden when went second 1f out, every chance when ridden for sustained challenge inside final 110 yards, no extra and weakened final strides

prominent centre, ridden 2f out, weakened final furlong

tracked leader, led 3f out, ridden and headed over 1f out, soon weakened

close up, pushed along and headway over 2f out, weakened inside final furlong

prominent, pushed along over 2f out, kept on same pace final furlong

in touch in rear, pushed along halfway, outpaced 5f out, tailed off

dwelt, soon in touch, ridden and headway over 1f out, kept on same pace

always in rear, weakened over 1f out

towards rear, pushed along from halfway, ridden inside final furlong, kept on but never on terms near finish

prominent on far side, travelling well and every chance 2f out, ran on well inside final furlong, no chance with winner final 110 yards

raced wide, in rear, pushed along o and headway over 2f out, weakened over 1f out

raced towards near side of centre, held up in mid-division, headway halfway, chased leaders 2f out, went 2nd inside final furlong and closed a bit on winner, lost 2nd final strides

held up in mid-division, headway 2f out, disputing 2nd inside final furlong, 3rd and held towards finish

prominent, pressed leader over 2f out where ridden, soon drifted left, briefly threatened entering final furlong, no impression inside final furlong

in touch behind leaders, ridden over 3f out, kept on same pace 2f out, weakened entering final furlong

towards rear, pushed along over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, never nearer

tracked leaders, ridden over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

close up, pushed along over 3f out, weakened over 1f out

took keen hold, chased leaders, pushed along 2f out, ridden over 1f out, plugged on one pace inside final furlong

midfield, headway from 2f out, ridden when disputing 1f out, faced sustained challenge inside final 110 yards, just prevailed post

raced keenly tracking leaders, weakened inside final 3f

slowly into stride, soon recovered chasing leaders on inside, disputing 2nd inside final furlong, strong challenge towards finish, just lost out in head bob

mid-division, ran green at times, towards rear and pushed along over 4f out, well beaten over 2f out

in rear, pushed along and outpaced 4f out

keen tracked leader, pushed along to lead over 1f out, ran on

steadied start, in rear, pushed along over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, never nearer

tracked leader, pushed along to lead 2f out, ridden and headed approaching final furlong, no extra

keen tracked leader 1f, close up, ridden over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

prominent, driven over 2f out, edged left over 1f out, kept on same pace final furlong

led early, prominent, led over 1f out, ran on well, readily

in rear, dwelt start, headway under pressure on inside over 1f out, went 2nd final 100 yards but could not go pace of winner, kept on

bumped start, always in rear, well beaten inside final 2f

steadied start, behind, not much room over 1f out, ran on inside final 100 yards, nearest finish

mid-division, pushed along over 2f out, weakened inside final furlong

towards rear, ran green, outpaced before halfway, made modest headway past tiring rivals final two furlongs

held up in mid-division, closer halfway, headway out wide into 2nd 2f out, ridden and no chance with winner over 1f out, kept on for clear 2nd

midfield, ridden over 2f out, edged left entering final furlong where no impression

chased leaders far side of group, kept on same pace inside final furlong, run flattened out inside final 100 yards

raced keenly tracking leaders on inside, headway far side of group over 2f out, went 2nd inside final 2f, ridden over 1f out, stayed on same pace inside final furlong

keen in touch, headway 2f out, led over 1f out, ridden and stayed on strongly

held up last but in touch, outpaced 3f out, ridden to make headway 2f out, ridden before 1f out, gradually weakened

in touch but keen and pulled hard to halfway, chased leader from home turn, ran on to go third before 1f out, every chance inside final furlong, unable to quicken inside final 110 yards, kept on but always held by front pair near finish

tracked leader, pushed along over 2f out, weakened over 1f out

carried right start, always in rear

midfield, pushed along 2f out, made no impression

keen held up in touch in rear, wide and headway 2f out, ridden inside final furlong, stayed on one pace went 2nd near finish

slowly away, towards rear, pushed along 4f out, never on terms

led briefly, tracked leader until over 10f out, handy 3rd on inside, ridden to lead inside final furlong, soon joined, headed towards finish

steadied start, held up well off the pace in rear, good headway near side rail over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, went 2nd towards finish, no chance with winner

towards rear, very modest headway 3f out, soon outpaced, weakened from before 1f out

tracked leaders, ridden and unable to quicken over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

led, ridden 3f out, headed 2f out, weakened thereafter

rear of mid-division, pushed along and made no impression 2f out

steadied start, pulled hard on inside in steadily run race, soon tracking leaders, ridden on inside over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, went 2nd towards finish, not pace to challenge

took keen hold in rear, ridden over 2f out, kept on same pace entering final furlong, minor headway inside final furlong

steadied start, always towards rear

bit keen tracking leaders, pushed along out wide over 2f out, hung left and stayed on under pressure inside final furlong, 6th and held when eased inside final 100 yards

steadied start, held up in rear, not clear run over 1f out, never involved

slowly away, held up in rear, pushed along over 3f out, effort and switched left over 1f out, soon short of room, switched right but unable to make any impression after

steadied start, held up in rear, pushed along and some headway from over 2f out, never dangerous

towards rear, ridden over 2f out, switched right and effort over 1f out, no impression, weakened inside final furlong

raced keenly chasing leader, ridden and lost 2nd over 1f out, weakened final furlong

not much room start, mid-division, pushed along over 2f out, no impression over 1f out

tracked leaders, driven and headway over 1f out, kept on strongly inside final furlong, led in the final stride

held up in rear, pushed along over 1f out, no impression

close up, led over 3f out, ridden under 2f out, headed over 1f out, kept on

chased leaders on inner, ridden to lead over 2f out, headed 1f out, slightly hampered inside final 110yds, ran on

off the pace in 5th, headway towards inside over 1f out, went 2nd final 110 yards and closed, not reach winner

close 3rd on inside, pushed along and outpaced over 2f out, lost modest 3rd inside final furlong, lost 4th final strides

held up towards rear, not clear run when keeping on inside final furlong, never dangerous

made all, hard pressed from over 1f out, held on

took keen hold, led at steady pace, ridden and headed over 2f out, faded over 1f out

off the pace in 4th, pushed along 3f out, soon ridden and weakened

slowly away, outpaced in rear, minor headway on inside final furlong

went right and slightly hampered rivals start, chased leader, ridden and strong challenge inside final furlong, led post

mid-division, pushed along over 2f out, kept on steadily inside final furlong

handy, pushed along well over 2f out, no impression and faded 1f out

chased leaders, pushed along and outpaced over 2f out, soon well beaten

towards rear, effort on outside over 1f out, no impression and one pace inside final furlong

in touch, pushed along and headway over 1f out, ridden and stayed on one pace inside final furlong

chased leader on inside, going well 2f out, led approaching final furlong, ran on well, always holding on

always towards rear

raced keenly towards rear, some headway over 1f out, never threatened

held up in mid-division, ridden over 2f out, soon unable to quicken, weakened over 1f out

soon prominent on outside, not much room 5f out, headway and switched right 2f out, edged left and lost place over 1f out, no impression final furlong

unruly and led to start, took keen hold, in touch, headway over 1f out, pushed along to lead inside final furlong, edged right and ran on

mid-division, ridden 2f out, never going pace to get involved

slowly away, soon held up in 4th, closed over 2f out, went 2nd over 1f out, edged right and green inside final furlong, soon edged left, stayed on well, led close home

chased leaders, effort and switched left over 2f out, edged right and led over 1f out, stayed on well, comfortably

keen, led 7f out, ridden approaching final furlong, ran on, readily

raced wide keen, close up, pushed along over 2f out, ridden over 1f out, kept on one pace inside final furlong

towards rear, pushed along 2f out, never a factor

led early, tracked leaders, led entering final furlong, ran on, readily

towards rear, ridden over 3f out, well beaten final 2f

raced in close share of fourth, pushed along from 2f out, ridden before 1f out, rallied and ran on strongly inside final furlong, led well inside final 110 yards, always doing enough final strides

soon steadied mid-division on inside, 5th and no impression inside final furlong

pressed winner, ridden and strong challenge over 1f out, held inside final 50 yards

steadied start, towards rear, headway over 1f out, switched right inside final furlong, stayed on, went 2nd close home

held up in rear, ridden over 2f out, never dangerous

soon chasing leader, ridden 2f out, led over 1f out, edged left and headed entering final furlong, stayed on same pace

towards rear, pushed along 2f out, ridden and ran on inside final furlong, nearest finish

in rear, ridden over 1f out, headway inside final furlong, never nearer

dwelt in touch, pushed along and headway over 2f out, ridden and stayed on inside final furlong

soon led, headed 5f out, ridden and weakened from 2f out

took keen hold, held up in rear, hanging left 1f out, never threatened