Clive Cox Horse Racing Form | Newbury 14:15 23rd September 2017

went right start, soon recovered to chase leaders, headway to lead 4f out, ridden 2f out, headed and nudged right entering final furlong, no extra and weakened quickly inside final furlong

took keen hold, held up in touch in midfield, closed to track leaders over 1f out, effort 1f out, pressing leaders when squeezed out just inside final furlong, rallied under pressure final 100yds, snatched 3rd last strides

held up in touch towards rear, effort over 1f out, no impression, never dangerous

held up in touch towards rear, headway over inner 3f out, driven to chase leaders 2f out, soon outpaced, weakened inside final furlong

stumbled slightly leaving stalls, held up in rear, ridden 2f out, no extra well inside final furlong

chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, one pace

tracked leader, led over 2f out, ridden when strongly pressed over 1f out, kept on well to assert closing stages

tracked leader, led halfway, ridden clear over 1f out, kept on strongly

took keen hold early, soon restrained into 6th, progress on outer over 2f out, ridden to lead well over 1f out, driven and kept on well when clear final furlong

held up in rear, pushed along over 2f out, progress and ridden over 1f out, kept on but not pace to reach leaders

raced centre, tracked leaders, headway 2f out, ridden to challenge over 1f out, driven inside final furlong, led last 75yds

chased leading trio, closed on outer to lead well over 1f out, soon driven, held on well final furlong

held up towards rear, progress on inner over 2f out, driven to dispute 3rd inside final furlong, faded near finish

chased leader, headway halfway, close up 2f out, soon ridden and every chance, driven and kept on same pace final furlong

took keen hold, chased leaders, ridden entering final 2f, 5th and outpaced when switched left over 1f out, kept on same pace final furlong

steadied start, held up off the pace in last pair, ridden and closed well over 1f out, challenged under pressure entering final furlong, led 150yds out, stayed on well, ridden out

led, ridden and hard pressed over 1f out, headed 1f out, battled on gamely under pressure to lead again well inside final furlong, headed and no extra towards finish

raced enthusiastically, made all, ridden over 1f out, edged left and drew clear inside final furlong, impressive

led at strong pace, edged left towards near side rail from 2f out, headed over 1f out, no extra and lost 2nd last 100yds

ran green and always towards rear, weakened just over 2f out

led to well over 1f out, soon left behind but held on well enough for 3rd

held up, headway over 3f out, soon ridden, kept on to go 3rd inside final furlong but no threat to front pair

always prominent, shaken up briefly over 3f out, led over 2f out, edged right inside final furlong, kept on strongly, ridden out

travelled well in mid-division, headway over 3f out, ridden to challenge over 1f out, kept on well to lead towards finish

made virtually all, hard pressed 2f out, driven over 1f out, asserted near finish

chased leaders, ridden on inner over 2f out, no impression over 1f out

pressed leader and soon clear of rest, led over 2f out, ridden clear over 1f out, lead dwindled near finish but never in any danger

broke fast, made all, stayed far side over 2f out, ridden and hung right from over 1f out, held on well inside final furlong, all out

towards rear, pushed along 3f out, never able to trouble leaders

held up in last pair, shaken up over 2f out, stayed on from over 1f out to press for a place near finish

dwelt, always towards rear

soon led at strong pace, joined over 2f out, headed and weakened quickly over 1f out

chased leading trio, ridden over 2f out, soon lost place, steadily weakened

slightly impeded early, well in rear, pushed along halfway, soon lost touch, tailed off

raced in rear-division, niggled along from halfway, ridden over 3f out, kept on one pace from over 1f out

midfield inner, angled left 2f out, soon pushed along to chase leader, ridden approaching final furlong, no extra final 110yds

pressed leader, ridden with every chance over 1f out, tended to edge left, kept on well closing stages

with leaders, overall leader on outer of near side group 2f out to 1f out, one pace

tracked leader, led just over 2f out to well over 1f out, one pace under pressure after

took keen hold, tracked leading pair, went 2nd over 1f out, driven to close on leaders, led last 75yds, edged left and headed post

hampered after start, tracked leaders, shaken up over 2f out, ridden and hung left from over 1f out, ran on

led, clear after 3f, ridden and headed over 1f out, no chance with winner but kept on well enough for 2nd

slowly into stride, raced keenly and soon tracking leaders, ridden over 1f out, stayed on same pace

raced towards far side, towards rear, ridden along over 2f out, kept on final furlong

always towards rear stands' side, 8th of 8 in group

mid-division, headway in centre over 2f out, soon ridden, stayed on to go 3rd well inside final furlong

took keen hold early, held up in rear, some headway over 4f out, ridden along over 3f out, soon outpaced

in touch, pushed along over 3f out, ridden 2f out, kept on inside final furlong but not pace to threaten

took keen hold, pressed leading pair to over 2f out, weakened quickly over 1f out

led or disputed throughout, took field towards far side halfway, joined by runner-up 2f out and pair soon clear, driven to assert last 75yds

chased leader until led 2f out, soon ridden and headed, stayed on same pace

led 2f, ridden halfway, stayed on same pace final furlong

held up, headway when not clear run over 1f out, ran on strongly when clear entering final furlong, closing on winner final 75yds but always being held

took keen hold, held up well in touch in midfield, closed to press leaders halfway, driven over 1f out, no extra under pressure inside final furlong, weakened final 75yds

prominent, led after 1f, ridden and headed just over 1f out, faded inside final furlong

mid-division, headway over 2f out, soon ridden, chased leaders over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, snatched 2nd close home

mid-division, headway over 2f out, soon ridden, every chance over 1f out, kept on same pace final furlong

slowly into stride and hampered start, recovered to lead 5f out, ridden and headed over 1f out, edged left and no extra inside final furlong

soon with leader until pushed along over 3f out, remained handy, ridden halfway, stayed on same pace inside final furlong

made all, raced keenly, quickened over 2f out, pushed clear from over 1f out, easily

led, ridden over 1f out, headed entering final furlong, driven to regain lead final 120yds, drifted left, kept on gamely

taken down early, led to over 3f out, soon shoved along, weakened over 1f out

prominent, ridden to chase winner 2f out, kept on but always well held final furlong

held up in touch, shaken up over 2f out, ran on to lead well inside final furlong, comfortably

free to post, took keen hold, held up in midfield, effort 2f out, hanging left over 1f out, keeping on when hampered final 100yds

led until halfway, ridden and unable to match pace of winner over 1f out, lost 2nd and weakened inside final furlong

held up in touch, ridden over 1f out, hung left and no extra inside final furlong

raced keenly in disputed 2nd, ridden to lead over 1f out, hung left inside final furlong, ran on, readily

held up in midfield, ridden and no progress over 2f out, faded over 1f out

led to over 1f out, weakened final furlong

raced lazily early and strong reminder after 1f, effort on inner over 2f out, no progress over 1f out

tracked leaders, shaken up over 2f out, progress to go 3rd inside final furlong, kept on steadily but never able to challenge

mid-division until pushed along over 5f out, in last pair and struggling 4f out, some progress 2f out but never threatened to get involved

raced keenly in 2nd place, every chance over 2f out, soon ridden, weakened final furlong

chased leaders in centre, outpaced after halfway, plugged on from over 1f out but no threat

led, ridden and headed just over 2f out, kept on same pace

in touch, ridden over 2f out, never threatened, weakened final furlong

always behind, ridden and outpaced over 2f out

tracked winner, challenged 2f out, soon ridden, every chance final furlong, kept on but held nearing finish

pressed leaders until halfway, lost place under pressure over 1f out, weakened final furlong

tracked leader, led 3f out, ridden and headed over 1f out, kept on but no chance with winner

tracked leaders, went 2nd 6f out, ridden over 1f out, led well inside final furlong, soon headed, stayed on

made all and stretched field, pressed 2f out, ridden over 1f out and soon drew clear, very readily

in touch towards rear, effort over 1f out, soon outpaced and beaten, weakened final furlong

took keen hold early, held up towards rear, driven and no progress 3f out, well beaten after, plugged on inside final furlong and nearly snatched remote 6th

raced wide, in touch, progress to chase leader 3f out to well over 1f out, one pace after

raced in centre, dwelt, took keen hold, effort 2f out, soon under pressure and struggling, weakened final furlong

held up, pushed along and headway on outer over 2f out, ridden to lead and hung left 1f out, stayed on under pressure

raced keenly and soon with leaders, ridden to lead over 1f out, soon hung right, ran on well

led, quickened halfway, ridden and hung left over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, stayed on same pace

held up, driven 2f out, ran on final furlong, went 2nd near finish, no chance with winner

chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, pressed winner over 1f out, not quicken under pressure final furlong until ran on close home, just held

led against rail, driven and headed over 1f out, kept on but held when left in lead last strides

steadied start, took keen hold, held up in rear, effort entering final 2f, hung left under pressure over 1f out, no chance with leading pair inside final furlong, went modest 3rd towards finish

tracked leader until led 2f out, ridden and headed over 1f out, unable to quicken with leading pair 1f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong

prominent, lost place over 5f out, headway over 2f out, shaken up over 1f out, hung left and weakened inside final furlong

soon led, headed over 4f out, led again 3f out, ridden well over 1f out, kept on strongly final furlong

soon led, ridden along and headed over 1f out, driven entering final furlong, rallied well to lead again near finish

ran green, slowly into stride, rousted along early and reminder soon after start, in touch towards rear, ridden 2f out, headway to go 4th 1f out, stayed on steadily to go 3rd towards finish, no chance with winner

took keen hold, tracked leaders, effort entering final 2f, ridden to chase winner over 1f out until 1f out, outpaced by winner and kept on same pace inside final furlong

dwelt and went right at start, green and soon pushed along in rear, headway well over 1f out, kept on final furlong

chased leader to over 2f out, wandered and weakened well over 1f out

chased leaders on outer, ridden over 2f out, progress over 1f out, took 3rd just inside final furlong, never able to challenge

raced against rail, chased leader to 2f out, weakening when impeded just inside final furlong

chased leaders, ridden 3f out, chased winner over 1f out, stayed on

with leader, shaken up to lead and quickened over 1f out, ridden and edged right inside final furlong, ran on

slowly away and ran green early, soon in touch, progress on outer over 2f out, ridden to challenge over 1f out, chased winner after, kept on but no chance

led until headed after 1f, regained lead 2f out, driven over 1f out, narrow lead entering final furlong, soon ridden, held on well close home

chased leader in centre to halfway, soon ridden, weakened 2f out

tracked leaders, closed to challenge over 1f out, chased winner after and readily held, lost 2nd last strides

in touch, took close order over 2f out, ridden to lead entering final furlong, kept on, headed final strides

raced in centre trio, held up in rear, effort 2f out, no impression until headway and stayed on to pass beaten horses inside final furlong, never troubled leaders

tracked leader until took over after 1f, made rest, pushed along and quickened pace 3f out, 1 length clear 2f out, ridden over 1f out, challenged by runner-up entering final furlong, hard ridden and ran on, held on by diminishing margin

led, ridden and pressed over 2f out, headed over 1f out, no extra and beaten 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

went left start, in touch in last trio, effort over 1f out, kept on inside final furlong, never enough pace to get on terms

held up, ridden over 2f out, never on terms

took keen hold, tracked leading pair, ridden well over 1f out, not quicken and lost places final furlong

mid-division, ridden over 3f out, weakened well over 1f out, eased

in touch, outpaced 2f out, effort on outer over 1f out, one pace and no chance

took keen hold in midfield, ridden over 2f out, not clear run over 1f out, kept on final furlong to take 5th last stride

taken down early, in touch and raced widest of all, ridden 2f out, raced slightly awkwardly and one pace from over 1f out

prominent, led narrowly over 2f out, soon ridden, headed just over 1f out, no extra

mid-division, ridden 2f out, never any impression

chased leader until ridden over 2f out, weakened inside final furlong

in rear on outer, ridden very wide over 2f out, ducked right 2f out, eased after

chased winner, ridden over 2f out, lost 2nd when edging left over 1f out, kept on same pace final furlong

led until ran wide on bend over 5f out, ridden to chase leaders 2f out, went 3rd well over 1f out, kept on same pace final furlong

made all, driven 2f out, ran on well

slowly into stride, well in rear, off the pace halfway, effort 3f out, reached very modest 4th over 1f out, no progress after

well in touch, shaken up and outpaced 3f out, no chance final 2f

chased leading pair on outer, ridden over 2f out, faded over 1f out

chased leaders, ridden halfway, chased clear winner over 1f out, kept on but never getting on terms

tracked leaders, ridden and every chance over 1f out, stayed on same pace inside final furlong

led after 1f towards outer, shaken up 2f out, soon drew clear, comfortably

soon led, ridden and headed 2f out, no extra well inside final furlong

mid-division, headway over 1f out, kept on nicely final furlong, went 3rd inside final 100yds

led and displayed plenty of pace, ridden when pressed over 1f out, headed final 110yds, unable to go with winner towards finish

raced stands' side, held up in touch in midfield, switched right and effort well over 1f out, soon hung right and no impression, kept on same pace inside final furlong, 5th of 13 in group

raced near side to centre, tracked overall leader until led well over 1f out, soon ridden, stayed on strongly and drew clear inside final furlong, ridden out, 1st of 17 in group

taken down early, held up well in touch in midfield, effort and edged left over 1f out, chased winner 1f out, kept on but never matching pace of winner inside final furlong

held up, ridden 2f out, headway over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, not quite reach leaders

tracked leaders, effort 2f out, kept on same pace final furlong

last pair, ridden over 2f out, stayed on final furlong but not pace to get involved

pulled hard, joined winner 5f out until pushed along 4f out, ridden and edged right over 1f out, kept on

tracked leaders, driven and switched over 1f out, hard ridden entering final furlong, ran on

tracked leaders, driven 2f out, ridden and switched to rail entering final furlong, briefly not much room, 1 length down 150yds out, ran on strongly under pressure to lead last 2 strides

held up in midfield, progress 2f out, ridden to challenge just over 1f out, not pace of winner but kept on to take 2nd last stride

chased leaders, ridden along over 2f out, gradually weakened

chased leading pair, ridden 3f out, responded to pressure to close on inner over 1f out, took 2nd last 75yds, just failed

led, headed 2f out, soon driven along, one pace and lost 3rd well inside final furlong

chased leaders, ridden when pushed right and bumped over 2f out, soon struggling, 4th and weakened over 1f out

took keen hold, tracked leader 2f, stayed prominent until weakened final furlong

took keen hold early, close up on outer, shaken up and not quicken 2f out, one pace after

led, pushed along 2f out, joined and ridden over 1f out, headed entering final furlong, soon driven and kept on same pace

led, ridden and headed 2f out, kept on same pace final furlong

slowly into stride, always in last pair

held up in touch, ridden over 2f out, never threatened, weakened final furlong

hampered start, in touch, headway 2f out, soon ridden, not clearest of runs but not pace to challenge when clear over 1f out, no extra inside final furlong

chased leader, ridden over 2f out, led final 140yds, kept on well, readily

slowly into stride, soon mid-division, ridden 3f out, headway just over 1f out, kept on well to go 2nd final 50yds, finished strongly

narrow lead to over 2f out, pressed winner to over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

last trio and niggled along, headway and ridden over 1f out, 4th and keeping on but not threatening leaders when not clearest of runs and eased towards finish

tracked leaders, ridden and chance 2f out, weakened final furlong

tracked leaders, not clearest of runs over 2f out, ridden over 1f out, switched right inside final furlong, stayed on strongly towards finish

chased leader until ridden to lead well over 1f out, driven and headed inside final furlong, kept on well but always just held after

tracked leaders, challenged over 2f out, ridden and every chance over 1f out until entering final furlong, faded final 100yds

soon pushed along to stay in touch, never pace to threaten but won battle for modest 4th near finish

slowly into stride, towards rear until headway on far side over 3f out, driven and chance 1f out, one pace

in touch in midfield, ridden and progress from 2f out, kept on to take 4th final furlong, no chance

chased leader, stayed towards near side rail from halfway and led over 1f out, driven and headed final furlong, rallied to lead last stride

prominent in centre 4f, weakened quickly

towards rear, steady progress from 2f out, kept on final furlong but never going pace to get involved

dwelt, towards rear until some late headway

raced centre, always prominent, overall leader just over 2f out, drifted left but kept on well final furlong

chased leader, ridden over 2f out, closed and driven to press winner 2f out, unable to quicken over 1f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong

soon led, ridden and headed over 1f out, soon driven, lost place and beaten 1f out, weakened inside final furlong, eased towards finish

held up in midfield, ridden well over 2f out, not going pace to reach leaders but kept on under pressure over 1f out

held up, switched right and headway over 1f out, ridden and edged left inside final furlong, ran on

slowly into stride, pushed along in rear early, switched left 2f out, headway over 1f out, ran on

tracked leaders, ridden to lead over 2f out, headed inside final furlong, no extra

chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, soon one pace

in touch, took closer order over 2f out, ridden to take narrow advantage just over 1f out, held on, driven out

raced centre, prominent, pushed along over 2f out, hung left and weakened over 1f out, last of 6 in group

chased leaders, shaken up to lead over 1f out, driven out

made all, raced keenly, shaken up and quickened over 1f out, soon clear, impressive

slowly into stride, held up, effort over 2f out, never on terms

chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, lost place over 1f out, behind inside final furlong

soon prominent, chased leader over 2f out, ridden to lead inside final furlong, ran on well

chased leaders, ridden to lead over 1f out, ran on well

chased winner, ridden and every chance over 1f out, ran on

in touch in midfield, ridden and progress from 2f out, driven to lead 150yds out and edged left, stayed on well

chased winner to well over 1f out, hanging badly and raced awkwardly after, one pace final furlong

prominent early, tracked leaders after 2f, ridden over 2f out, faded final furlong

led, ridden and headed over 1f out, no extra inside final furlong

dwelt, soon ridden along to chase leaders, effort over 3f out, soon driven and weakened

stumbled start, soon prominent, pushed along over 2f out, ridden well over 1f out, soon weakened

tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, kept on same pace final furlong

pulled hard, tracked leaders, led 5f out, headed 3f out, soon ridden and hung right, no extra inside final furlong

tracked leaders, raced keenly, ridden to lead and hung right over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, stayed on same pace

close up, pushed along 3f out, no chance with winner but took 3rd final furlong and kept on

chased clear leader, pushed along to close 3f out, led 2f out, ridden and headed inside final furlong, soon outpaced

always in last trio, struggling over 2f out

in touch, ridden along halfway, weakened over 2f out

tracked leaders, ridden to lead 3f out, edged left, headed 2f out, kept on but soon held by winner

travelled well tracking leaders, strong challenge 2f out, ridden entering final furlong, not quicken, no extra final 120yds

held up 6th, ridden over 3f out, no impression until headway over 1f out, chased winner entering final furlong, drifted left, kept on but always being held

tracked leaders, ridden to challenge for 2nd over 1f out, kept on but no extra final furlong

in touch, ridden 2f out, soon oe pace

chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, outpaced and lost place well over 1f out, weakened final furlong

tracked leader, ridden well over 2f out, weakened entering final furlong

pressed leaders to halfway, weakened over 2f out, eased and tailed off

close up centre, pushed along over 2f out, soon ridden and edged left, weakened well over 1f out

took keen hold, held up in touch, headway over 2f out, switched left and ridden to chase leaders over 1f out, kept on well final furlong

held up in last, switched to near side and rapid progress 2f out, driven to challenge last 100yds, just pipped last strides

tracked leader, challenged and upsides from 2f out to just inside final furlong, stayed on same pace after

prominent, chased leading pair after 2f to well over 1f out, weakened quickly

in rear of main group, pushed along over 1f out, some headway 2f out, chased clear leading pair over 1f out, no impression but kept on for clear 2nd

held up towards rear, effort 2f out, switched right and headway under pressure over 1f out, stayed on strongly under pressure inside final furlong to lead on post

with leaders until ridden over 2f out, weakened well over 1f out

taken down early, led and ridden entering final 2f, headed over 1f out, lost place and beaten 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

prominent on inner, close up halfway, challenged 2f out, soon ridden and every chance, kept on same pace final furlong

took keen hold, chased leader until led over 1f out, ridden and headed entering final furlong, no extra and weakened inside final furlong

with leaders, ridden over 2f out, weakening when hampered 1f out

led over 5f, ridden and every chance from over 1f out, ran on

chased leader until shaken up to lead over 2f out, ridden out

pulled hard early, raced towards near side to halfway, on terms when groups merged, ridden to chase winner just over 1f out, stayed on but no impression

held up in 3rd, shaken up 3f out, tried to close from 2f out, stayed on final furlong and nearly snatched 2nd

hampered start, soon upsides leader, led over 4f out, ridden when strongly challenged over 1f out, kept on, headed final stride

led, ridden and headed well over 1f out, kept on but not pace of winner

tracked leaders, headway over 1f out, switched left and ridden to challenge entering final furlong, kept on well to lead last 75yds

held up in midfield, headway on inner 3f out, led 1f out, driven out

with leader until no extra inside final furlong

held up in rear, ridden over 2f out, no progress until stayed on from over 1f out, never nearer

early pace to track leaders on outer, ridden over 1f out, no impression on winner, shuffled along on outer inside final furlong

led, joined over 2f out, soon headed and ridden, lost place over 1f out, weakened inside final furlong

soon well placed, tracked leader over 2f out, led well over 1f out, driven clear final furlong, readily

chased leaders, led over 3f out, ridden clear from over 1f out, edged left inside final furlong

prominent, ridden 2f out, kept on inside final furlong to nearly snatch 2nd final strides

mid-division, ridden and headway over 1f out, pressed for 2nd entering final furlong, no extra final 120yds

mid-division, ridden over 2f out, never any impression (lame behind)

taken down early, bumped start, held up in touch in midfield, effort under pressure over 1f out, stayed on well under pressure final 100yds

hampered start, in touch, tracking leaders travelling strongly when not clear run and snatched up over 1f out, switched right, shaken up and ran on well final 130yds, led final stride

tracked leaders, ridden 2f out, kept on same pace final furlong

tracked leaders, led over 2f out, ridden and headed entering final furlong, kept on but soon held by winner

dwelt, recovered into 5th after 1f, driven 2f out, stayed on to dispute 2nd final furlong, no impression on winner

in touch centre, headway 2f out, ridden over 1f out, driven and kept on final furlong

pulled hard, chased leading trio, outpaced well over 2f out, lost modest 4th final furlong

made all, kicked for home over 2f out, stayed on well from over 1f out, readily

dwelt, towards rear and off the pace, pushed along and progress on outer from 3f out, driven to chase leader final furlong, sustained effort to lead last stride

led, ridden 2f out, headed over 1f out, gradually weakened

raced far side, chased leaders, ridden over 2f out, weakening when hung left over 1f out, 8th of 9 in group

pushed along leaving stalls, led 4f out, shaken up over 1f out, ridden clear inside final furlong

held up in rear, headway 3f out, ridden along 2f out, kept on final furlong

in touch, ridden over 2f out, kept on

in touch, green and hung left after 1f, soon outpaced and behind

took keen hold and held up in 3rd, tried to challenge on inner over 1f out, one pace final furlong

pressed winner, ridden over 2f out, challenged 1f out, kept on but always held

tracked leaders, shaken up and hung right over 1f out, soon beaten

chased leaders but ran green and soon pushed along, steadily weakened from 3f out

led, ridden and pressed over 1f out, edged left and headed last 100yds, stayed on

mid-division, effort entering straight, ridden 2f out, stayed on well inside final furlong

held up, headway over 2f out, shaken up to lead over 1f out, edged left, ridden out

led, ridden over 1f out, headed and unable to quicken well inside final furlong

pressed leaders, ridden over 2f out, lost place and faded over 1f out

pulled hard and prominent, shaken up over 1f out, stayed on same pace well inside final furlong

made all, set steady pace until quickened over 2f out, shaken up and edged left over 1f out, ran on well

took keen hold, pressed leaders, ridden and no response over 2f out, weakened under pressure over 1f out

soon led, ridden well over 1f out, clear approaching final furlong, kept on strongly

rousted along early to get going, ridden in midfield 2f out, weakened just over 1f out

started slowly, held up in last, took keen hold and pulled way through to lead after 6f, soon clear, headed and weakened over 2f out, eased and tailed off

held up in touch, ridden to chase leader over 1f out, every chance inside final furlong, stayed on same pace towards finish

chased leaders towards outer, ridden over 2f out, gradually weakened over 1f out

held up in midfield, close up when not clear run 3f out, ridden and not quicken 2f out, plugged on to take 4th near finish